Aldy,

Consider this: Science isn’t done via website. Science is done in the lab and in the field and reported in peer-reviewed journals. You’re 100% right that you can find websites to support any position. That’s why you should go directly to the source to get accurate information. Do you really think you are going to get accurate information about evolution from a creationist website? Especially when every creationist organization that I’m aware of has a mission statement that says they reject any evidence that does not support a literal interpretation of the bible? Does that sound like honest science to you? Your argument about the human body evolving one cell per second is a good example. Evolution doesn’t require that to have happened, so what does it matter that it couldn’t have? Same goes for DavefromGJ’s protein argument. Evolution doesn’t claim 200 amino acids jumped together randomly, so saying it can’t happen has nothing to do with what evolution actually says.

Well what do you know, unused baby parts used in research.  I am going to take a wild stab in the dark here, but I doubt the pats are used in such silly research as if cosmetics are bad.  They are probably doing research that in the end might save other babies.  Ones that are not aborted by the mom.  As much as I dislike abortions, at least something good is coming out of a bad situation.  It is like being an organ donor, only the organs used are those of aborted fetuses.  The money that changes hands is used to cover operational expenses.  Better than using tax dollars for it.  Also, the clinics are not out trying to convince people to have the abortions.  These people are having abortions anyways.  The end result is the hope that the research finds things that help keep other babies alive.  I hope I never need the fruits of that research, but if I ever do, I will thank God every day that the research happened.  As far as that goes, I have my donor registration filled out, do you?

Scott, typical answer from you. Before the evolution thread on this site, I didn’t know much about the internet, since then I have ventured out,I found sites that agreed with you and those that didn’t, I also found sites that were in the middle but leaned toward the creation sites.
While on that thread I was searching through books I had, while you were surfing the net only on sites that favored your desire. I have found that ppl can become university professors and never step through a university door, just click on a mouse.
There are a lot of pro-life and pro-abortion sites out there as well, pro-abortion sites glamourise their existance, pro-life sites show the reality.
If you don’t want something to be the truth bad enough, you can always find a site to agree with you.
Working on seven decades, I have learned a lot, and I can’t agree with much of the nonsense that goes on today.
Life, is more valuable than money, no matter how small.

Aldy,

What questions have I failed to answer? That had anything to do with the actual topic, I mean. Last I checked, fossilization had nothing to do with the abortion amendment this thread is about. And you have provided nothing but laughs on that subject anyway, so i really don’t know what you’re complaining about. You have shown nothing that indicates you understand evolution enough to even make a claim that it does not fit the evidence, so why should anyone listen to you? You show no signs of even knowing what the evidence is, but do show signs of parroting what other YECs say, as evidenced by your link to the “giant skeleton” page. A 5-second google search would have shown what a crock that was, even if I hadn’t seen that picture before (and on the original contest thread it was made for). So when you make a claim like you did about Planned Parenthood, and totally fail to back it up, I ask again, why should anyone listen to you?

micahrw, here’s a site for you; http://babypartstrafficking.org/ I know that won’t stop your whinning, but that is to be expected.
Scott has failed to answer questions I have asked many times, but that doesn’t count does it?
I just figured the answers would minimize his rant about evolution being millions of years, especially when fosselization takes so little time, it was one of the things that turned me away from evolution, the time frame didn’t fit.
Don’t you ever take a weekend off? I come back and find you were on here SAT. morning, badmouthing, as I have said before, there isn’t an Independant party, yet.

Aldy has a record of dropping subjects when called on it.  When it comes to put up or shut up, Aldy gets quiet really quick.

It is cool. I just fail to see why it has anything to do with the subject your were trying to divert attention to (from your complete inability to support your accusation against Planned Parenthood). You seemed to be trying to talk about fossilization, and so you gave a link to a creationist site that apparently thinks those photos were real. Is the gullibility of creationists really an issue?

And who says there are more earthquakes than normal? Did you get that from a YEC site too? There aren’t more, they are just more in the news because of the Haiti quake. There may also be more occurring closer to population centers, but there are not abnormally more earthquakes happening right now. Let me guess, this is supposed to be an “end of days” diversion, right? Usually when someone can’t back up a claim, they just drop the subject rather than continue to try to change the subject to something else. It just makes then look worse. But I’m game if you are…

Aldy, I really am beginning to think that you have no real ability to think for yourself.  This is by no means an attack on your faith, considering that one either has faith or not.  I am commenting on the drivel you insist on spouting in these forums.  You take every piece of “evidence” your party has, even the stuff that has been admitted to being fake and you tell it like it is real.  The tabloid mags use better evidence to back up their stories.  Come to think of, whatever happened to “Batboy”?

You got me there Scott, I thought I was shareing something really cool that a friend sent me from another state, you thought I was trying to take you from your religion. Isn’t that a little narrow minded?
Did you know that Liberalism is the most powerful Religion in the world? It has the power of the occult over its adherents, and there is no changeing anyone who doesn’t want to be changed, so you don’t have anything to worry about, OK?
Procter & Gambel used to be the biggest buyers and it was common knowledge about it, but that was before political correctness, everything can now be hidden if an entity wants that exclusion, it’s part of the Liberal Religion, you should know that.
What do you think of the increase in earthquakes, and their magnatudes, volcanos and killer storms lately? It doesn’t have anything to do with abortion, but, just asking.

You take the cake, aldy. I don’t suppose you’ve ever heard of the photoshop contests to make realistic looking archaeological images?

http://www.archaeologynews.org/link.asp?ID=248864&Title;=

You guys are so desperate to justify your beliefs you’ll latch on to anything that appears to support them, without even checking to see if its real or not.

And you still haven’t supported your libelous accusation that planned parenthood is selling aborted fetuses. Oh, that’s right. You can’t.

Scott, here is a site for you about some fosselization, don’t let the names of the site scare you off, you will actually live through it.
http://herecomestheson2008.org/ADAM & EVE IN THE LAND OF GIANTS.html There is a fossel there you won’t believe, remember, each step of the ladder is one foot.
Nearly 40 years ago I wasn’t looking for saving articles, I just read them.
Liberals won’t do anything about abortion, 1. because they might deprive a DNC abortion contributor of an income. 2. they don’t want anyone to be offended, they might not contribute to the DNC anymore. It’s pretty simple why women got the, “right”, to kill their child. This nation used to believe in the sanctity of life.
So, micahrw, you are alright with Obama saying, “we knew the risk before we went overseas”, he doesn’t see why we should get any benefits from the VA? He also included those in Iraq and Afganistan, or was he just….. “joking”?

Nope, sorry, I do not use illegal drugs.  The only drugs I take are the ones the VA give me and as far as I know, they do not prescribe marijuana.  I know I have said this before, but I am personally against abortions, but I also believe I have no right to force my personal beliefs on anyone either.  No, I am not bad mouthing Christians either, just those that clam to be Christians but really are not.  I am bad mouthing those that want to force their beliefs on other people, and as always I am speaking out against stupidity and ignorance.  You insist on blaming “liberals” for all that ails this country, but the facts are that “conservatives”, like our former president Bush Jr., have done more harm than good for this country in the last 30 years or more.  We went from no national debt up into the trillions, school funding has been cut big time, and many other things have been done to cause problems.  Bush Jr.  even cut over 2 BILLION from the budget for the VA.

Aldy,

And if you were a real scientist, you would understand that one has to back up one’s claims himself. Science isn’t done by making assertions and daring others to prove them wrong.

I’ll take your response as an admission that you have no legitimate source for your claim and you are just parroting the talking points and scare tactics from those who advocate taking away women’s rights.

I suspected as much, but it nice to have confirmation.

Scott, you, being a REAL scientist, shouldn’t have any problem finding the information yourself, did you ever find out how long it takes for fosselisation?
micahrw, your medical marijuana is showing, liberals no longer believe in common sense, they have political correctness, truth, like everything else they believe in is “relevent”.
You can bad mouth christians all you want, but they do far more than liberals ever have when it comes to taking care of the poor with food, clothing and shelter. Liberals just make it a campaign promise they always break, anything for a vote.
Christians help the women to be healthy, and if they carry their child full term and want to adopt it out, they have help, and if they keep the child, they still have help. The women learn that there really are ppl who care for them and their child.
Liberals simply want them to abort the child, there’s money in it for someone.

Aldy, once again you might want to look out, your ignorance is showing.  Religion, just like politics was ruined by idiots/fanatics.  You sir, give patriots and Christians a bad name.  Every time you choose to post you prove more and more just how ignorant you really are.  Now I am being nice and giving you the benefit of the doubt and I am calling it ignorance, but you keep this up and I might have to call it what it really is starting to seem like, and that is outright stupidity.  keep in mind, ignorance can be fixed, but stupidity cannot.  As for you R.C. I hate to break it to you, but common sense no longer is, just like common courtesy.  People are rude, and look how instructions and warnings are written any more.  They pander to the lowest common denominator.  They are written in such a way to try to be idiot proof, but as we all know, as soon as something is idiot proof, society just provides a bigger idiot.  Other than that though, I agree with you fully.

Aldy,

Got any actual evidence to support your claim about Planned Parenthood selling fetuses?

Or is this like your half-remembered “study” from MIT about the evolution of the human body?

R v. W became a law to take attention away from the fact that abortion is all about money. Planned parenthood and all the others get paid for their services, then take the fetuses and sell them for big profits to cosmetic companys and research labs and who knows who else. I often wonder what “new” natural ingredients really are in vitamin and food products that are secret, know what I mean?
To say that a child isn’t human until it’s born is an outright lie.
I’d like to have a dollar for every woman who got an abortion because she was told to do it by her husband, boyfriend, parents or friends, I would be far richer than anyone who got a dollar for the woman who got her abortion for herself. It might be her right, but everyone else uses it to gain money, lose a responsibility they didn’t want, you name it.
Abortion as a religion requires child sacrifice.
Liberalism as a religion, denys the sanctity of life.
Responsibility can be taught cheaper than abortion.

i do hope that it will be the will of the people of Colorado that will win over Planned Parenthood and any other organization that wants to twart the process and force their will on the voters.  It is the State’s right to pass laws as they see fit for their constituents and according the way the people vote, but, of course Planned Parenthood cannot seem to fathom that there are women and men that cannot stand at the sight of butchery of children and be passive about it…where does it state in the Constitution that a child has no rights just because he/she is not born yet…???

i pray to God and to all with common sense and respect for life that not just Colorado but all other states who are PRO-LIFE that want to govern themselves different from abortion states that they WILL pass laws to stop this heinous practice for their own constituents and if a woman wants to have abortion she can go to the state that allows it…STATES RIGHTS AND LAWS TRUMP FEDERAL LAWS…!